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Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

  • 1.  Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-19-2021 14:43
    News in the paper today where our state is going to start
    vaccinating all State residents over the age of 65.
    I had Open Heart surgery 1.5 years ago, no problems.  
    Has anyone gotten the vaccine yet and do Physicians
    recommend this for their heart patients..

    Thank you if you care to reply


  • 2.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-20-2021 06:20

    Hi Mary,

    My straight answer to your question is that I have read nothing that indicates the vaccine is a risk to heart patients (and I read virtually everything).  To the contrary, both the CDC and many, if not all, state guidelines list heart disease patients as a priority for receiving the vaccine.  Moreover, the pre-registration questionnaires that I have seen and signed provide consult your physician warnings only to immunosuppressed patients.

    Now, forgive me for my sarcastic answer below.  Does the vaccine even exist, or is it a mass hallucination or perhaps a massive hoax.  I have signed up for the vaccine on half a dozen Nee Jersey websites to date, inly to be told that they don't actually have the vaccine at present but, not to worry, they will contact me when they do.  I don't know a single person who has been vaccinated yet, although a 25 year old perfectly healthy teacher friend of my wife is purportedly scheduled to receive the vaccine on Friday.  If, indeed, the vaccine has been given to limited people thus far (150 out of 60,000 in my town), then that constitutes just .2.2% of the population, which would mean that the entire population should be vaccinated after around 400 months.  Even if the state number is more like 2 or 3%, that would still take 3 plus years to vaccinate everyone.

    Now I know that President Biden wants to speed up the process and vows to get 100 million people vaccinated in his first 100 days, and I pray that he succeeds.  I have to tell you, though, increasing the current snails pace to what would amount to one million vaccines a day seems to me less likely than our being able to engage in interstellar space travel within the next decade.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I'm outraged by this whole vaccine business, which I regard as a program created by idiots and run by imbeciles, all while old, sick people like us die like fleas, and I needed to vent my spleen to reduce my own stress level.

    I hope we all can get out vaccines soon, before it's too late.


    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 3.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-20-2021 07:41
    For good common sense, I came to this forum knowing
    that you would be interested in my note to you all
    and would probably reply to it.

    Its funny you should mention the mystique 
    of the here today/gone today /sign up now situation
    with this vaccine

    Our headlines posted front page that Wisconsin would be
    vaccinating 700000 but only 7000 doses are available

    So I called my Heart Specialists and they will get back to
    me soon, or sooner, or maybe later.

    I actually feel very proactive about calling the Doctor and
    making an appointment and going to that appointment
    and that is rare for me.  But because of that whole
    Nursing Home fear if I should ever take a fall or have
    to recover from another surgery, I thought how wonderful
    it would be to prepare early.

    Our 65 plus population is ready and willing and able to 
    get this vaccine.  We talk about it and text about it,
    and it gives us the will to live and be healthy.

    And in the meantime I triple bag my face masks when I go out,
    and still remain rascally and healthy, knock on wood.

    Thank you Ira.  Be Safe and Be Happy


  • 4.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-21-2021 05:58
    I am 70 years old.  My wife is 60 and my daughter, who is a college junior and lives with us, is 20.  I am extremely careful about the virus, going out daily only for my outdoor walk and stair climbing cardio workouts.  I do my strength training at home.

    My wife is almost as careful, going out only to buy groceries, run household errands and, occasionally, see a friend she considers safe for a couple of hours.  I have told my daughter (and my wife) that I do not want her sacrificing her college years to protect me and that she should see her friends as long as she exercises the good judgment that I know she has.  She is terrified of catching the virus, probably asymptomatically, and passing it to me, but I know that she also craves social contact with her friends, and I also know she makes very levelheaded judgments about what is and isn't safe, and she asks our opinion constantly about safety.

    And so, I walk a safety tightrope for the sake of my child, who is now a woman and who I love more than anything in the world and who I will not prevent from taking reasonable risks because she fears for my old life which I already have lived fully and well no matter what else happens.

    Tomorrow I go to see my cardiologist to get the results of my recent nuclear stress test and echo cardiogram.  I pray that the results are okay, but at least I was told by the attending stress test cardiologist that the stress test portion went well. I don't yet know the radiologist's and echo tech's reports.  I feel perfectly well but my cardiologist ordered the tests when he noticed a couple of extra heart beats in a routine EKG, something I know happens occasionally when I feel stressed, usually coming months apart, and that a doctor once pointed it out to me 20 years ago while I was still running marathon distances.  Given my excellent fitness level for a 70 year old, and based on past experience, I believe this is nothing important, but I have PTSD from my heart attack and almost dying of my heart surgery complications 3 years ago, so I pray that I am fine, for my family above all.  I will let you know the results tomorrow.

    I also will ask my cardiologist tomorrow whether he can put in a good word for me somewhere so I can get vaccinated sooner than later.


    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 5.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-21-2021 11:51
    Well Ira, I did call my doctor and now the headlines in the New York Times says that people are making appointments but the appointments are also being cancelled as fast as they are being made.

    We have the people who are interested but not the amount
    of vaccines that we need right now.

    My Doctor sent me a text message that said, Thank you for
    your interest in the Covid Vaccine, we have noted it on your chart but don't call us, we will call you when the vaccine is available...
    The Dialect of the Message is my interpretation for this note.

    Good Luck Ira..Hope you have good luck in scheduling your Vaccine.


  • 6.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-22-2021 17:05
    Well I've been to the cardiologist and my test results were fine.  My grafts are clean and my heart is functioning properly.  It was interesting to see the dead portion at the bottom of my heart, murdered by the heart attack.

    Alas, I am still unvaccinated.  Perhaps I should move to Indiana, which appears to have things under better control...or I can move to Israel, claim my right of return as a Jew, and get vaccinated there as they anticipate vaccinating their entire population by the end of March.

    Stay safe, as if that is actually a possibility.


    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 7.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 10:07
    How long was it after your surgery that you started to feel better? I'm 14 months and counting post-Cabg and feel like I'm not making much progress with the breathing issues and chest tightness. It seems like it will never end.  I'm told major progress happens after 2nd year of recovery. Do you agree?

    Robert Sauder

    Robert Sauder
    Cumming GA

  • 8.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 18:42
    Hi Robert. I read your question to Ira and wanted to share with you my experience. I'm not, and I didn't have the same type of surgery you two had. But I had a hard time getting balanced for a long time after my OHS. Honestly, I thought I was just not going to live much longer and that's that. I had kidney stone surgery 10 months after. Still, I was feeling super blah. I finally got a new cardiologist and he said I can get that special feeling. First I was taking too many vitamins and so I got a blood test and started taking just what I was low on recommended by my doctor. Then I stopped taking my anxiety meds. I decided I didn't want them anymore. My heart wasn't racing anymore. Finnaly, I cut down on my carbs. I wish I could say that I am completely carb free, but I can't, just mostly. After 3-6 months I feel fabulous!! 2 years later and I'm on cloud 9. Think about your meds and vitamin regulation and eating habits, with your doctors directions, and hopefully you can find your cloud too. God bless

    [Carrie] [Kashani]
    [White Bear Lake [MN]

  • 9.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 20:52

    my Name is Bill Platten,  I have many complex issues with my heart failure that the only thing left is couple experimental drugs and implants but I'm not strong enough to qualify at the moment but I'm going to do what I must to qualify.  Is anyone out there that is experiencing anything like I am I would love to talk.  I have been going to the Cleveland Clinic

    William Platten
    Alliance OH

  • 10.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-12-2021 08:37
    Hi Bill

    I too live in Ohio and get cardiac care from the Cleveland Clinic.?? Your
    problem is heart failure and mine is unstable angina from coronary
    artery disease in vessels that can't be stented. So we both are relying
    on medication and guidance from Cleveland Clinic cardiologists.?? You
    must feel disappointed not to qualify for a particular treatment and I
    hope you'll be successful in that endeavor.

    But in the meantime, you have a great team of caring healthcare
    professionals.?? You are getting state-of-the art cardiac care so I
    encourage you to take a deep breath. Your heart is an amazing pump that
    adapts to adversity and your body too is adapting.?? I know I am anxious
    about getting another angina attack despite all my meds; you must also
    be feeling anxiety about your diagnosis.?? Have you got a support team
    around you in Alliance in addition to this group online??? Perhaps you've
    been trying some relaxation strategies. I'm using meditation and prayer,
    guided imagery, deep breathing and intentional distractions.?? Eg,
    reading a good book takes me out of myself.?? I also look at old photos
    and feel gratitude for all the good things that have happened in my 76
    years.?? I've outlived my mother and only aunt both who died of heart
    disease so I'm on bonus time in an era when so much can be done for us.
    Soldier on!



  • 11.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-12-2021 09:11
    Hi Carrie,
    We are almost neighbors up here in the Great North area
    of the US.  I am on the border of Wisconsin and the UP
    of Michigan which also puts me near Minnesota also.  Almost
    like the Trifecta of Northern States

    I love my carbs, and I feel worse since gaining weight this 
    past year with sheltering at home and the covid restrictions

    I felt super charged and 20 years younger for the first
    year after surgery, but now I struggle to maintain 
    a decent energy level.  
    I don't feel it is my heart or because of the surgery, I feel
    it is more an issue of depression and poor diet.  After I read your note this morning, I am going to try to cut some of the carbs
    out of my diet and get back into mindfulness meditation on a daily basis.

    We just never know what will grab our attention with these notes and I just wanted to get back to you and Thank you so much for yours


  • 12.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-12-2021 19:02
    Mary, that makes me so happy you had an "Ah-Ha" kinda moment. I love my meat and potatoes up here in the Midwest lol. I was scared too. But my doctor made it sound easy so I gave it a try. Try to have more veggies on your dinner plate then anything else... whatever the veggies are. I switched to wheat. Wheat bagels, honey wheat bread, wheat crackers, even wheat chips. I have red potatoes instead of Idaho potatoes. I switched to veggie pasta, I don't like wheat pasta and no rice. The whole family is on board. Once it warms up I really want to get back to taking walks again. That's what I have been missing the most. Good luck Mary. Let me know how it goes.

    [Carrie] [Kashani]
    [White Bear Lake [MN]

  • 13.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-13-2021 01:38
    Thank you so much Carrie

    Today was difficult, I was feeling stressed and looking 
    for my potato chips that are not in house 
    anymore after yesterday....Oh, and the Ranch Dip with 
    Bacon was also removed.

    But I doubled up on my water, getting to 8 or 9 full
    glasses today and that is new for me too.

    Again Thank you so much, once Spring hits up here and
    can go for more walks I think my mood will improve alot


  • 14.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-13-2021 22:33
    I hear you Carrie and Mary.  My problem is that I love and only eat healthy foods, but I eat sooooo much of it.  If you devour stuff like salmon, chicken. veggies, hummus, beans and fruits, and avoid fattening sauces, you can still gain weight.  I eat zero junk food and I still have a problem with portion control and struggle with weight despite being an exercise junkie.  Help!!!


    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 15.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-14-2021 13:06
    Ira, I'm not sure what the solution is. I have a very focused, structured diet and exercise ambitiously and I've gained around 5 pounds since surgery a year ago. I'm still less than I was pre-surgery, but I exercise harder and longer. No rhyme or reason, other than, perhaps, the BP meds, which are on par w/pre-surgery. The only exception is swapping metoprolol for carvedilol. Maybe the reality's genetically who we are. 😱😬

    Always enjoy your posts.


    Herb Greenberg
    San Diego CA

  • 16.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-14-2021 16:56
    It's either portion size or snacks between meals. Consider the meals you were provided while in hospital; small balanced portions, very little salt or sugar, no snacks or alcohol.  I exercise daily but if it's cold weather (below 35)or rain or snow, I walk indoors early at the short hills mall. Your lucky, San Diego has very few snow days.
    All the Best,
    Victor Fabry, CEO
    Greylock Advisors, LLC

  • 17.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-14-2021 17:35
    Hi Vic,

    No snacking, moderate sizes - no change from pre-surgery. me. If you saw me walking down the street you would probably wonder what I'm talking about but my vanity precedes me.


    Herb Greenberg
    San Diego CA

  • 18.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-15-2021 07:20
    We're both very fortunate. After almost a year after OHS, your main concern is five pounds of "winter weight".  I can't wait until spring weather arrives for golf, tennis and swimming.

  • 19.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-15-2021 08:28
    Lucky... and very grateful!

    Herb Greenberg
    San Diego CA

  • 20.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-15-2021 19:42
    Herb and Victor,

    I think it's a question of metabolism.  When I was a long distance runner in my 20's and 30's, I was a human furnace.  I ate anything and everything just to maintain my weight and have energy to run.  During those days, I was running between 35-55 miles per week.  When I got to my 40's, I was still eating the same but I would gain weight if I was running anything under 50 miles a week.  By the time I was 60, and I developed sciatica, my running days ended and walking just didn't have the same calorie burning effect.  After my quintuple bypass surgery, I did get cocky and start running again, but the sciatica laid me low after about 6 weeks.  So now, at age 70, I just walk and climb stairs, do calisthenics, isometrics and weight training, eat a tiny fraction of the food I used to eat, and struggle to keep the weight down.

    So it goes.


    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 21.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-16-2021 08:31
    Ira, I'll take metabolism! Plus what I didn't say: My heart rate is very low (often <50bpm at rest) - possibly genetically so, no doubt helped along by the meds. So there's that, which I suspect has some impact on metabolism.


    Herb Greenberg
    San Diego CA

  • 22.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-10-2021 23:36
    Dear Ira
    You are a frequent writer in this forum. i appreciate that you give such caring supportive advice to so many people .
    Your daughter’s concern for your safety is a reflection on how well you have raised her.
    This will hopefully be over soon and then she will go back to the “normal l” social life

    Marilyn B. Rosenhouse
    Mobile: (214)850-0655

  • 23.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 07:56
    I send blessings to you both for caring and sharing.
    Here is pulling for good results on Ira’s tests.
    As for the vaccinations, I was having trouble getting mine scheduled through our county registration site. Each week they would open up and all the spaces were filled by the time I attempted to sign up. I finally sent an email to the county administrator in charge of the program and he was able to get me a spot. I get my second Pfizer shot next Monday.
    Good luck and Godspeed to you!

    Sent from my iPad

  • 24.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 07:58
    Our prayers are with you and your family. I know what you mean about PTSD and OHS. I am 14 months out from my CABG and almost died, also. I've been having a lot of PVCs and may have to go in for ablation to eliminate. It's been a tough road, but I promised my youngest daughter that I will dance with her when she gets married this May. Sometimes it's really tough fighting the battle every day but we have to look forward and keep on moving on. Keep safe and hope everything turns out well with your tests.

    Robert Sauder    

  • 25.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 08:34
    Hello Ira and Robert 
    How much we have in common...OHS, complications, PTSD, and the persistent reality that we will always have some concerns about current status and new issues.

    Ira, hope you are getting hopeful helpful information from your echo. Our hearts are remarkable...the best pump ever created and the core of  our humanity and love.  Deep breath. Still have lots of living to do.

    Godspeed everyone

  • 26.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 02-11-2021 17:14
    Hi Folks,
    I want to thank everybody for their good wishes about my health and let you all know that both my nuclear stress test and echo results came back clean as a whistle. I'll see the cardiologist again in April to see whether he wants to adjust my blood pressure medication, but my blood pressure has seemed pretty good during my daily self testing and I haven't experienced any extra heart beats (at least not that I know of) since December.
    I also did get a surprise email from the Hoboken Dept. of Health about the availability of a Moderna Covid vaccine and I had my first dose on January 26.  No side effects except a sore shoulder at the vaccine site which went away within a day.  I'm scheduled for my second dose on February 26.
    Robert, in answer to your question, my recovery from OHS started slowly, as I was in a medically induced coma for two weeks on account of the pneumonia, but as soon as was paroled from the hospital, entered rehab (for another three weeks) and then finally went home, my recovery was rapid. Three months after surgery, I was back in the gym lifting weights.  Five months after surgery, I was running again, at least until sciatica reduced me to walking again.  My surgery was in February (tomorrow and Saturday are my Alive Days) and I did feel some shortness of breath walking in the hot Summer heat of Manhattan that first year after just returning to work.  By Fall, though, I was fine and I never looked back.  I'm now three years post surgery and feel great.
    I hope you all stay well and safe, and if you're waiting for a vaccine, I hope you get one soon.
    All the best,

    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 27.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-21-2021 09:37
    Just another reason I'm glad I live in Indiana. West and East Coast pundits can tease us all you want ("flyover state", "hicks", etc), but most of us are happy Hoosiers.  We are a conservative, logical, calculating, common sense and yes, mostly Christian state with Republican majorities in most communities. (I grew up a conservative Democrat, but they don't even come in moderate flavor anymore).  

    Our state leadership established a vaccination plan and prioritized recipients.  After first responders, the next in line were 80+ year olds, then 70, then 65, etc. Several of our 70ish friends have already received the vaccine, mainly by searching locations that they preferred or would travel to. 

    Maybe governors of other states should swallow their pride and visit Indiana to learn how to manage these types of situations.


  • 28.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-22-2021 07:31
    I am one of lucky ones had both my vaccinations!!!
    I volunteer at hospital so got to be one of the lucky ones to be picked.
    I know most people 65 and older are getting them just be patient or move to Indiana :)

    Maureen Price
    Noblesville IN
    (317) 420-9319

  • 29.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-23-2021 09:10
    Remember that song from 1970, "Indiana Wants Me." Great song, but the guy who wrote and sang it was a "one hit wonder" in the US.  Wonder if he's gotten a vaccine?  He's over 80.

    Maybe I'll just chain myself to the hospital where I had my surgery, like the Jon Voight character in "Coming Home" and where a "vaccinate me" sign around my neck. Make a nice headline:  "Quintuple Bypass Septuagenarian Arrested Because He Can't Get a Covid Vaccine."

    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ

  • 30.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-20-2021 08:35

    I had bypass surgery almost 20 years ago and my doctor heartily recommends that I get the vaccination shot.


    Sent from Mail for Windows 10


  • 31.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-20-2021 15:28
    Thank you so much Gary...That is a real boost for any of us to 
    read and for your own Healthy Self...
    Keep up the great work


  • 32.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-20-2021 08:40
    I am a Mended Hearts visitor and our group has received both doses of the vaccine with no problem. My daughter is a pharmacist and was born with a congenital heart defect and had the 2nd dose 3 weeks ago with no side effects. Its too early to know how well it works but we believe it will.  Good luck

    Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone

  • 33.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-20-2021 15:29
    Thank you Gerald so much...This is more awesome news for me and
    for us to hear

  • 34.  RE: Covid Vaccine And Open Heart Surgical Patients

    Posted 01-25-2021 13:21
    I got my vaccine on Saturday.  I talked to my cardiologist and elctro-cardiologist and they said is was up to my family doctor.  My family doctor said to get the vaccine.  I had some discomfort where they gave me the shot and same pain in the joints for about a day.  Today (three days later) I do not have any side affects.  You do not have to be 65 to get the vaccine.  I am 60 and qualify as a 1B.

    I know several people who have gotten the vaccine as first responders and none of them had any issues that they let me know.  They are nieces, nephews and family members.

    Randy Waclawczyk
    Round Rock TX