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Depression post op 14 weeks

  • 1.  Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 06-26-2020 12:42
    I'm having some depression 14 weeks into my recovery. Because I'm still having fatigue and breathing issues.  I am uncertain as tp how long it takes for full recovery and if anything full what full recovery means. This is causing me concern.  I am 71 and prior to surgery i was fairly active. I cycled and skied. I'm having some stamina issues I have none.

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    PETER VALENTY
    RETIRED
    OAKDALE MN
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  • 2.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 06-26-2020 13:18
    Hello Peter,
    This is the week for depression. You are not alone. If you scan through some of the other folk's messages you will not that depression is common for a lot of us after our surgeries. Many of us have gone into the funk while in the first several months of recovery. 
    Welcome to the Zipper club and rest assured you are not alone. Some folks try to get counseling others also have meds and others just talk it out. The key factor is to understand that it is all right to feel the way you do. Just know it is temporary and it will get better. 
    The better you get physically the better you will get mentally. They go hand in hand. Just be sure to give yourself time and try to be patient with the process. Do not be afraid to talk to your provider about it. It is important they know how you feel about everything. I am sure others in the forum here will give you some sound advice. Just be sure to take what you need and dump the rest. 
    As I have told everyone I have ever spoken to, We are all different and we all heal at different rates. 
    Be patient and be safe,

    Richard Short
    Chapter 395





  • 3.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 06-26-2020 15:06
    Peter,
    I have similar issues 7 months post Cabg...my friend whom had aoric replacement told me he had similar breathing stamina issues. He said it took almost 1.5 years to feel somewhat normal. What many have said it may take up to 2 years before major progress occurs.  I try to walk everyday even though I feel breathless,but got to do it or I will go backwards.
    Try not to rush it,it will come.

    Robert Sauder


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    Robert Sauder
    Cumming GA
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  • 4.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 06-27-2020 11:45
    Robert and Peter,

    The problem exists only because we have bought into the idea that there is a 'normal" or "usual" or other way we're "supposed" to feel.  The fact is that there are no rules.  We change constantly, physically and emotionally no matter whether we have heart disease, cancer or we've never been sick a day in out lives but we're just getting older.  I'm in great shape now, 2 1/2 years after a heart attack and quintuple bypass surgery, lifting weights and doing bodyweight gymnastic exercises that very few 70 year olds on Earth can do but, I have to tell you, I suck compared to what I was able to do physically 20 or even 10 years ago, let alone when I was 20 and thought I was invincible.  It's called becoming an old man.

    The point is that we're alive, right here, right now.  The roses are still there for you to smell and, damn, they do smell good.  You can still walk through the woods or, if you can't walk anymore, you can sit in your backyard or, if you don't have a backyard, you can sit on your front stoop, and feel the breeze on your face and hear the leaves rustling in the trees.  It's still there and you can feel it.  Experience is right here right now waiting for you to join it.

    Or you can contemplate how you don't feel the way you used to or want to feel and miss the moment.  Don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying you should ignore physical symptoms and not discuss them with your doctor.  I'm just saying you don't want to dwell on it and enjoy the gift of life that all of us have been given, especially those of us on this website.  We're all living on borrowed time!and can't afford to squander the loan.

    All the best,

    Ira

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    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ
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  • 5.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-01-2020 22:34
    Good evening Peter,
    Just read your note. So your 71 and still not 100%. WOW.  I'm 81 and I'm not the same when I was 71.  At 71  I  wasn't the same as I was when I was 58 and had my first heart attack and CABG x 4. When I hit 65 I had my second CABG x 2, They did what they couldn't do the first time. I spend my energy thinking about what I want to do,or can do. Forget what was. Thank all that you are still here.

    Think good thoughts. List to music. Laugh alot. Hang out with people that think up.
    Rainy day==great--the birds can drink and the flowers will grow. You went though a lot. Go enjoy. I don't play singles tennis anymore. So what. Do your eyes still work ? How about the BRAIN-THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. Food an issue ? If not - enjoy.  I drink a little wine most days at 4-5 or at dinner. If your doctor says your heart is  OK give yourself time - you NOW have it. Family can be a big help but if some may give you a problem stay way from that situation. if you can't make peace. That is a big 2 way street.
    GO HAVE FUN.   WHEN SHIT HAPPENS AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE  Learn to say  W T F.  ( WHAT THE F**k)  Enjoy your time and do what you can, don't look at the past, life is in front of you. What WAS--WAS.   The smoke is clearing maybe 20 weeks or 50 weeks maybe never 100%
    Best regards,
    David Rosen--- visitor 12 years at JFK Hospital  Chapter 206 Fla.

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    David Rosen
    Lake Worth FL
    (561) 969-7010
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  • 6.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-01-2020 22:55
    All I can say to David's message is amen, brother.  Time is short and always was whether you believed it or not.  We only have right now and that is our gift. The past and future are illusions, stuff we imagine happened or will happen.  There are no shoulds, there is no fairness and nobody is entitled to anything.  Live life, right now, smell the roses in front if your face right now, hear the leaves rustling in the trees right now, feel the freedom that is living right now, an eternity of now.  Don't waste your time worrying about the way you wish things should be or how you believe they're supposed to be.  Pay attention to the wonder of this moment every moment.

    Ira

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    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ
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  • 7.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-02-2020 09:57
    Dasvid, good message until the end...81 and still using 4-letter words!  No wonder it's so common among the youth. The words add nothing, in fact, just the opposite. And, certainly not appropriate for this forum. Sorry.





  • 8.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-02-2020 10:14
    ​Donald,

    You're entitled to your opinion but, personally, I didn't mind David's use of a couple of four letter words at the end of his post.  I didn't find it offensive at all, particularly in the context of David's very positive and supportive message.  And, anyway, if you don't feel free to use a couple of well placed four letter words at the age of 81, having survived two open heart surgeries, then when will you feel free?

    Just my opinion.  Have a nice day.

    Ira

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    Ira Reid
    Hoboken NJ
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  • 9.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-02-2020 11:25
    Hello Peter, David, Ira, and anyone else willing to take the time to read this.

    I too had some depression post-op. I also have PTSD from my time in the service. I also have Arthritis, some Emphysema, CABG X 4, Pacemaker, allergies, etc., etc.

    Like Davis said, Forget all that. I will be 72 soon and I am looking forward to seeing and doing more. We just had a new granddaughter born during this COVID 19 lockdown. ��    
    My wife and I have sold our home and live full time in an RV and are traveling the US. We are meeting some of the greatest people we have ever met. We still meet the not so nice folks too. (as always) The nice one outweigh the bad ones. 

    I still love to cook and have found family members I never knew about on Ancestry.
    I talk to folks about Mended Hearts whenever I can. 

    Peter, it may seem like we are making light of your situation, but we are not. We have all been there. What we are saying to you is that it will pass. You will begin to enjoy life again. Granted you will have to make adjustments. You will get past them though. You will find the good in all of this as long as you tell yourself it will be. 
    Don't measure your feelings daily, but weekly. Are you better this week than you were last week. Our bodies take time to heal. You can't flip a switch and then feel better. Allow yourself some space to be patient. Can you walk farther this week than last week? Next week will be just a few steps farther. IT DOES GET BETTER.

    Good Luck and take care
    Richard Short
    Chapter 395






  • 10.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-02-2020 08:12
    Peter; I had open hearts surgery in 1983 and 1992 to repair my Mitral Valve, the second time -replacing it and also installing a annulplasty ring on the Tricuspid vale. Yes, the experience does make one aware of their mortality but also thankful for science and the skills of the medical profession.  I am now in my 82nd year and have never "babied" myself but have been aware of the signals my body sends me.  My wife and I celebrate our sixtieth wedding anniversary in a few months.  The best to you and always try to look at the bright side.


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    [Phil W
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  • 11.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-02-2020 10:23
    Peter,
    Let me assure you,we all feel at some point what your experiencing. Im 7 months post Cabg and still having the breathing issues and sometimes wonder if I will ever get better. Woke up this morning after bad day yesterday and walked and feel great. Its just the long process of recovery that is frustrating. I would suggest to walk as much as you can everyday  and  give your body time to heal.  I read that for many people that full recovery really happens in the 2nd year and trying  rush the recovery process is self defeating.
    Hope that helps from a member experiencing similiar issues.

    Robert Sauder

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    Robert Sauder
    Cumming GA
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  • 12.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-02-2020 21:56
    Peter,

    I was in the same boat about 2 or 3 months after surgery.  I'm 73 and was active too.  You'll get through this.  It takes some patience and time.  Post-op depression is fairly normal.  Take it one day at a time.

    Bill



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    Bill Tully
    tully & company
    Irving TX
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  • 13.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 30 days ago
    Hi Peter. It is very common to have the cardiac blues. I bet that's why a majority of people join Mended Hearts. I know that was my reason. Take your time and talk it out. You are a new person and it takes time to get to know new people. I'm coming up on my 2 yr anniversary of OHS and I'm still figuring out new feelings I have about myself. Although David my be a little on the tough love side, he is right. Think about all you're going to do and look forward to since you're going to be here for a while longer. You were spared from your family loosing you too soon. AMEN!

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    [Carrie] [Kashani]
    Parapro
    ISD
    [White Bear Lake [MN]
    Carrie
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  • 14.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-03-2020 11:15
    Hi Peter,
    You are not alone. I'm now 13 months post op (CABGx2) and remember around the 3-4 month mark feeling the depression. With the help of all these amazing members in this group and a wonderful therapist I was able to move through it, it does take time though.  14 weeks is still very early on in your recovery, just keep up the walking and talking with someone, or this group, to help you with your depression. You'll get there!! As far as stamina, that will come back as well. It has taken me a full year to start feeling myself again. I actually feel better now than I did before my surgery. Best of luck to you and know that you are not alone in how or what you are feeling, We're all here for ya!
    Have a great and safe weekend!
    Michelle

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    michelle leverett
    Ridgecrest CA
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  • 15.  RE: Depression post op 14 weeks

    Posted 07-03-2020 14:58
    I had fatigue and really bad breathing issues until I stopped taking amiodaron.  I was very depressed because I felt like I wasn't getting better.  I feel MUCH better now.  Having to sit in my house because of the Virus doesn't help.

    I grew up close to you.  Too bad they had to cancel the State Fair!


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    Anthony Smith
    Lake Elsinore CA
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